Darius and Tom are joined by Effectively Wild host, The Ringer writer and author of The Only Rule is it Has To Work and The MVP Machine, Ben Lindbergh.
They cover the book in detail, including the controversial topic of Trevor Bauer being the main thread running through it. They also talk about Ben’s steadfast nature when it comes to podcasting and Effectively Wild, how it’s part of his life and he would feel lost without it.
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